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- From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
- Subject: Re: Drammamine Tablets..
- Message-ID: <CFJ4LI.5z@spdcc.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 00:12:54 GMT
-
- In article <00974979.61C1BA04@pomona.claremont.edu> agaluhn@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
- >>It is diphenhydramine, an antihistamine. Sold as an allergy medication,
- >>and a sleep aid.
- >
- >(Description of diphenhydramine experience deleted.)
- >
- >Actuall, motion sickness pills (garden variety
- >Dramamine) are dimenhydrinate. Sorta kinda different from diphenhydramine...
-
- Dimenhydrinate is the 8-chlorotheophyllinate salt of diphenhydramine.
- The only important difference is potency: 50mg of dimenhydrinate is
- equivalent to 25mg of diphenhydramine hydrochloride. Same drug.
-
- It's still stupid to try to get high from overdosing on antihistamines.
- It's unpleasant and potentially dangerous.
-
- --
- Steve Dyer
- dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com
-
- =============================================================================
-
- From: tiscione@trident.usacs.rutgers.edu (Jason Tiscione)
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Re: Drammamine Tablets..
- Message-ID: <Oct.25.20.57.40.1993.18059@trident.usacs.rutgers.edu>
- Date: 26 Oct 93 00:57:41 GMT
-
- edith@unm.edu (peter menning) writes:
-
- >Was talking late one night at a Dennys.. When i overherd someone at the
- >table next to us start talking about how he started triping from taking 9 or
- >10 motion sickness tabs.. <Diphenhydromene <I know i am killing the spelling>
- >I am curious, Is it really true or is it a new U/L? And what would the side >effects be?
-
- It is diphenhydramine, an antihistamine. Sold as an allergy medication,
- and a sleep aid. It's more expensive as a sleep aid, even though it's the
- same formulation- I guess they figure people will pay more to be sleepy than
- they will to ease up their asthma attacks. Or maybe it's a "sin tax" thing?
- Took 250 mg once (a reckless experiment- but 60mg and 125mg on previous
- nights didn't seem to do anything- and I was curious) and I didn't like it
- at all.
- (That's equivalent to ten 25 mg tablets.) There's a feeling like, uh, you're
- slipping away from yourself, you can't control what happens to you, etc.
- All I wanted to do, for some reason, was read, read, read, but the next
- day I didn't remember anything that happened on 20 pages. (Useless.)
- Hallucination has been reported but if I recall correctly, they aren't the
- kind you'd want to have! (e.g. Thinking someone has been in the room who
- hasn't, believing that you have to do chores that you've already done,
- thinking that it's Tuesday when it's Saturday, etc.) Not beautiful
- spiral patterns on the wall or audio reverbations or anything LSD-ish, so
- if you're looking for an "LSD replacement", speaking from personal
- experience, I don't recommend diphenhydramine at all.
-
- Jason
-
- =============================================================================
-
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- From: HARPETH1@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (_VTA9390:)
- Subject: Methedrine
- Message-ID: <1994Jan18.101339.11371@news.vanderbilt.edu>
- Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 10:13:39 GMT
-
- I've posted this before with no response: Does anyone know what
- methedrine is? I guess not. I am assuming that it's some type of meth-
- amphetamine analog. A friend says he has access to this drug and intends to
- try it soon. I just thought I'd ask one last time for his benefit.
-
- On a different note, I've seen several postings regarding Jimson Weed
- (Datura Stramonium I believe). I was always curious about this plant, but
- the effects described sound similar to Gravol (Dramamine), which I HAVE
- tried. I for one would class it more as a deleriant than a hallucinogen.
- The trip started with a nice stoned feeling, but quickly changed. When
- staring at any white object (ceilings, and even cups or cupped hands) I
- noticed a strange clear gellatin-like substance that seemed to jiggle and
- spread towards me (looked a lot like the alien in the Predator movies).
- While doing LSD or psilocybin, I have always been able to tell reality from
- hallucinations. This is not the case with Dramamine. Several times I car-
- ried on conversations with individuals before discovering they were non-
- existant. I saw people and objects that were not there as well. Perhaps the
- worst aspect of the trip was the auditory part. I constantly heard my name
- being called, and sound is magnified to a very uncomfortable level. Speech
- (even from myself) was not only loud and difficult, but VERY slurred. Com-
- munication was difficult due to the fact that I would forget what I was talk-
- ing about in mid-sentence, and would finish most sentences off by saying "Uh,
- nevermind...I forgot." The amount of paranoia that prevailed throughout the
- trip was unbearable: especially after I saw my brother rise out of a pile of
- clothes in the floor to tell me that my father (who happens to be the head
- of a drug task force) was calling me. Maybe all of this was due to the fact
- that I was alone for the majority of this experience (nightmare). Definate-
- ly a one time experience for me. Not recomended for the weak of heart or
- mind. Especially at that dosage: 24 tablets!
-
- Jamey
-
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-
- Message-ID: <162302Z02051994@anon.penet.fi>
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- From: an55866@anon.penet.fi
- Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 16:16:18 UTC
- Subject: dimenhydrinate
-
- Hi,
-
- After seeing the posts on Marezine, I checked out anti-emetics in
- general and anti-histamines, and came across the anti-histamine
- hallucinogenic tendency. So I got some dimenhydrinate, the local
- Rite-Aid variety (cheaper than Dramamine--sp?), and paid four bucks for
- two boxes of twelve at 50 mg each. I was going to take them with a
- friend, but another friend wanted to split them three ways, so we had
- eight apiece (400 mg). We were pretty tired before we took them (about
- one in the morning), and especially with the anti-histamine property of
- putting one to sleep, we decided to have some coffee. We, being
- stoopid, put a hefty amount of Bailey's in our coffee, which I think was
- one of the reasons we didn't react much. About forty minutes passed,
- and we finally started feeling it. When inquired about my head, I said,
- "I think my brain shrunk." It felt very odd--not light, not heavy, just
- empty. :) When spoken to, we would have a delay (five to ten seconds)
- before we could reply, which started amusing me, but I couldn't seem to
- help it. I went to bed about two hours later (had a fun time walking
- there, too), and tried to sleep. I thought it was wearing off. The dry
- mouth thing was buggin, so I kept some water by my bed. I had a hard
- time going to sleep, especially when a couple times I was choking and
- found it difficult to bring in air through my throat (as opposed to
- through my lungs). I am a MILD asthmatic, and I was just starting to
- get sick, so that probably had something to do with it, but my friend
- said he started having to _think_ about breathing. I woke up about
- seven hours later alive, but with a pretty good headache. I only talked
- to one of the other friends, and he said he was still messed up that
- afternoon with the delay and stuff.
-
- I guess I'd try it again, but with no alcohol (I doubt what we had
- was a very big factor, though) and more dimenhydrinate (to try to get
- the hallucinations). If anyone has tried it under better conditions,
- please post (especially whether or not you had hallucinations), and
- thanks in advance.
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- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- From: dmaycrg@netcom.com (David May)
- Subject: Marazine
- Message-ID: <dmaycrgCpF9C1.r2@netcom.com>
- Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 07:40:48 GMT
-
- We used to do this stuff in junior high when we couldnt get anything else,
- and yes if you take 4 or more you poisen your system and hallucinate badly.
- One of my friends thought his dad was his girl friend and tried to do her,
- needless to say he ended up in the hospital getting his stomach pumped. And
- my other friend thought a gas pump was alive and attacking his car so he ran
- over it. It was all captured on video camera, he had some explaining to
- do in court. And when I did it I felt like i had aton of bricks dropped onto
- my head the next day. Mushrooms or mescaline is much better!!!
- --
- dmaycrg@netcom.com
-
- =============================================================================
-
- Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 14:26:11 EDT
- From: Gordo <DSG119@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Message-ID: <94120.142611DSG119@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Marezine trip - Evaluation
-
- OK, I saw the posts on marezine on the net, and decided to see if they
- sold it at the local drug store. Sure enough - they did - $6.09 for
- a box of 12. I took 7 of them at 10:45 PM (I wanted to be conservative
- since I don't know anyone firsthand who has done this). I went out -
- after two hours, the only effect I got was feeling REALLY tired.
- (Note - I'm 6 foot, 160lbs, male, with no tolerance to any drug)I
- went back home around 1AM, and took 3 more for a total of 10. I
- stayed in my room for about 30 min. then went out for a walk. I
- wasn't really feeling that tired anymore, and felt dazed.
-
- As I walked down a dark, quiet, back road listening to the Dead on my
- headphones - I saw a glowing white ball. At first I thought it was
- a person, then I thought it was an animal. It was about the size of
- a basketball, about 70 yards away. It was bouncing up and down and
- back and forth. As I got closer - I realized that the halucinations
- had begun. I was actually surprised - because after almost 3 hours of
- nothing - I was hallucinating. I looked up at the stars - and saw some
- really amazing psychedelic patterns twisting and gyrating among the
- clounds. It wasn't anything like acid/shrooms - everything was just a
- dull white (no colors at all with eyes open) but it was still very
- cool. Also it was different because occasionally I would just see big
- flashes like a strobe light. The best thing was the way the patterns
- worked their way into the clouds - I'd never seen anything quite like it -
- I would see the wild geometric patters flying around - then all of a sudden
- the would go INTO a cloud - and the cloud would start glowing! And then
- the cloud would burst and all the zig zags would come flying out of it
- again.
-
- After a while, I went back and layed in my bed. I could see colorful
- paterns with my eyes closed - but not when open. The colors were only
- simple red, yellow, green, and blue's, and the line patterns were
- not too complex. One cool thing that I could do was concentrate on
- some object, for example a soda can - and I could see that object perfectly
- clearly - and I would see my hands (this is all with eyes closed) and could
- move the object around - I thought that was cool. Then I actually heard
- a woman's voice - I knew it was just in my head - but I she seemed to
- have a mind of her own. I talked to her - and she came up with these
- funny respones out of no where - it made me laugh. Eventually all of
- the effects went away - but I could not fall asleep. I did not fall
- asleep till around 5 AM.
-
- Overall, I would say its worth trying once, definitely different. It doesn't
- have that "deep thought" thing thats going on with acid/shrooms which is
- kind of refreshing in a way, makes it more recreational and less spiritual.
-
- =============================================================================
-
- From: an65848@anon.penet.fi (Anonymous)
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Re: marezine : cylizine hydrochloride
- Date: 14 May 1994 15:29:58 GMT
- Message-ID: <2r2qpm$mv7@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
-
- In article <33V5Lc1w165w@qedbbs.com>, aga@qedbbs.com (Peter Dilley) says:
- >
- >marezine for a one time or possibly short term recreational use has come
- >to my attention.
- >
- >is the active ingredient, cylizine hydrochloride, which i presume is the
- >psychoactive substance, listed in any depth in nonprescription drug
- >encyclopedias? How is it classified? Does it show up in recreational
- >books such as PIHKAL? Is it a tryptamine?
- >
- >the inactive ingredients in the 50mg tablets are corn and potato starch,
- >dextrin, lactose, and magnesium stearate. I am assuming the later is for
- >anti spoilage and the rest for building the bulk of the tablet.
- >
- >the adult prescribed rate of injestion is 1 tablet every 4 to 6 hours,
- >not to exceed 4 tablets every 24 hours. what does the recreational
- >community use it [amount] : 4 tablets on empty stomach? at what level for
- >180-200 pound individuals, or 200-220 pound individuals or 160-180 pound
- >individuals. Is the only side effect a supposedly psychedelic effect?
- >
- >please e-mail me any information that you might have to share on this.
- >
- >oh, what would this be classified as. Mild psychedelic as in THC
- >[cannabis] or Major psychedelic [LSD-25, 'Shrooms (Psilocybin/Psilocin)]
- >Or a little over mild, a little under major, or middle?
-
- Well, I'm a 160 pound individual and I took 9 of the tablets (the box
- contains 12, If I remember correctly). It had some hallucinogenic
- properties (lights seemed brighter, shadows moved around) but
- nowhere near as good as LSD. My thoughts were a little abnormal,
- but again, it wasn't as interesting as LSD. However, the side-effects
- were quite disquieting. My eyes became very dry it seemed, and I
- had to blink often, so even when I saw something cool, I couldn't
- concentrate on it. The drug also made me very lethargic at first, and
- I wasn't sure whether I was going to pass out or not. This tired feeling
- lasted for most of the "trip", and I would wonder into semi-sleep states
- where I had something resembling dreams until I understood that I
- was falling asleep and snapped out of it. This scared me as I didn't
- know whether I had overdosed and this was serious, or whether it
- was just a normal side-effect. Anyway, I didn't like almost losing
- consciousness. Finally, after about 3 or 4 hours, I tried to go to sleep.
- I felt tired, but could not fall asleep. After a while, I started to have
- slight muscle spasms in my right arm which occurred whenever I
- didn't move for a few moments (definately not conducive to sleeping).
- By now I definately wanted the effects to go away. What I'm saying
- is that Marezine provided some interesting visuals, greater than
- Marijuana, but not as beautiful or interesting as LSD/shrooms, but
- the side-effects were definately not worth it. If you think you might be
- into this type of thing, you might as well bang your head against a
- brick wall until you start seeing spots or somehting; that's about the
- level of enjoyment I received from it. Stick to LSD if you can, if not,
- get a Robo buzz, but I for one do not recommend Marezine unless
- you actually do take it for motion sickness.
-
- =============================================================================
-
- From: George Tatarsky <gzt@delphi.com>
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Re: Dramamine question
- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 01:20:17 -0500
- Message-ID: <x00Q6JB.gzt@delphi.com>
-
- black.peter@scarolina.edu <U270009@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU> writes:
-
- >I remember reading in the Natural Highs FAQ that high doses of Dramamine can be
- >extremely dangerous...however I was recently told that if you take one whole
- >box of Dramamine, that's 12 tablets, it's a major mind fuck...anyone have any
- >more info about this, is 12 tablets lethal or severely dangerous, anyone tried
- >it, etc.? Thanks...
-
- I believe the active ingredient in Dramamine is 50mg of dimenhydrinate.
- Check out: Gardner et all. Dimenhydrinate abuse among adolescents.
- Canadian J. Psychiatry 1993; 38:113-116
- To summarize, several cases are described where teens typically took 5-15
- tablets (250-750 mg) at a time habitually for a year or more. The patients
- were described as chrnically depressed and amotivated. Symptoms
- "remitted with successful treatment of dimenhydrinate abuse". Based on
- this paper abusing this OTC antihistamine appears remarkably safe.
- I've taken 100 mg at a time and get a pretty strong, low quality, low euphoria,
- "scrambled" type buzz which comes on at 45-60 minutes and is completely gone
- at 150 minutes. You build up a tolerance very rapidly. This stuff would not
- be the drug of choice for anyone with access to alcohol, weed, benzos, etc.
- Maybe taking 500mg produces a better quality experience.
-
- =============================================================================
-
- From: krums912@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Shadowhead)
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Re: Mazarine (motion Sickness pills)
- Date: 13 Dec 1994 08:25:57 GMT
- Message-ID: <3cjlql$hid@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu>
-
- [quoted text deleted -cak]
-
- I did not find the drug as pleasant. My friends and I each ate an entire
- box (12 or 16 tablets). We did not have a good sense of balance and we
- felt delirious. Sort of stoned and tipsy but not in a pleasant way. Also
- we could not communicate verbally. I don't know if it was because our
- hearing or our speech was fucked up, but everything sounded like mumbles.
- We actually had to sit down and write messages to each other to
- communicate effectively. We had to pee every 10 minutes. When we finally
- came down after about 6 hours, our bodies went into shut down mode. The
- entire next day we were all dragging ass. It seemed our bodies were very
- pissed off that we attempted to poison them. I recommend this drug about
- as much as I recommend nutmeg.
-
- -shady-
-
- --
- Every thought swims the ocean of the mind.
- ------------------------------------\ \/ /---------------------------------
- SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHADOW><HEADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
- ____________________________________/ /\ \_________________________________
- Some break the light of the surface, others drown in their shadows.
-
- =============================================================================
-
- From: vlad@ids.net
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: marizene
- Date: Fri, 9 Dec 94 13:47:32 GMT
- Message-ID: <3caqbr$iv2@paperboy.ids.net>
-
- woah... i took some marizene after reading the post and.. oh
- my gods, it was -wacky-! whoever posted said he took 16.. i only
- took 6. here's what happened -
- the effects began in 2 hours (while i was driving). initially,
- only emotional effects ensued, very similar to those produced by
- lsd - mood swing in the upward direction, and general lack of
- concern for reality. a couple hours later i had auditory hallucinations,
- including hearing things and an increase in the pleasure of music.
- at night i was very tired, so i went to sleep (i took them around 3pm,
- went to sleep around 10, but i usually go to bed around 4am). the
- next morning, i had only visual hallucinations - exactly like acid.
- i havent taken enough acid yet to hallucinate alot, but i've seen
- trails and faces take feline qualities - same as marizene. around 11am
- it was over.
- anyway, i can only describe it as wacky, and for anyone who missed the
- related post.. you can get it at any drug store next to dramamine,
- and it comes in a multicolored box with a huge psychedelic spiral
- on it.
-
- peace, love, anarchy...
-
- * * * * *
- * * * * vlaad * * *
- * * * * * * *
- * * *
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-
- From: neptune@netaxs.com (GANJA DiGEST [WRiTER])
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: DRAMAMINE [READ!]
- Date: 7 Jan 1995 05:07:41 GMT
- Message-ID: <3el7it$4n4@netaxs.com>
-
- Hello all, I would like to talk to everyone about a story..
- The Camp Experience of Dramamine.
-
- It was this summer, and I was at summer camp, I am mentally
- addicted to pot, and have an addiction to speed. Anyways, i went to this
- christian camp in misourri (Kanakuk?anyone heard of it before?) Anyways,
- I went there and for about 3 weeks, I was sober, I started getting used
- to being sober and learning to handle it, but one day I just kinda bugged
- out and wanted some drugs. I had always heard that if I took 12
- Dramamine I would trip, I had never tripped before this experience.. So
- I said what the fuck I 'll pretend to be sick and then I'll sleep in the
- nurses office, when they goto bed i'll digest this dramamine. So I go
- in, the nurses say ok you can stay here to night.. I wait till they
- sleep, finally I go in and steal the bottle of dramamine and go back to
- the room that I was staying in [the infirmery], I popped 12 , waited an
- hour and then it didn't do anything, so I popped another 12.. [bad
- mistake].. Pretty soon my hand just started to wiggle. Then about 10
- minutes later, the trip stopped being euphoric, and seemed like reality,
- I had forgotten that I took the Dramamine, and was completely out of it.
- I would go blank and not see anything for like 2 minutes, really freaky.
- I went out of the room to go to the nurse's fridge to get a drink, I
- looked outside, and god strike me dead a dark tree turned into a man w/a
- black overcoat, black beard and a low brimmed black hat walking towards
- me, then he turned back into the tree.... I was bugging out so I went
- back to the bunk bed and tried to go to sleep. I was on the bottom bunk
- and noone else was on the top, noone else was in the room, suddenly my
- friends that I had met at camp [bunk mates] , their heads would swing
- down from the top bunk and start talking to me, it seemed so un-euphoric
- and real that I started talking back to them and they'd go away and i'd
- get really frusturated, I don't remember what happened after that. The
- next thing I remember was waking up and not being able to walk straight,
- I was shaking heavily all over my body. The nurse said good morning and
- gave me a cup of orange juice, not knowing I was fucked up, then suddenly
- I started shaking so much that the oj spilled all over me.. I forget
- what happened next, next thing that I remmeber was I was lying on the
- nurses lap in a big blazer and I didn't know where I was or where I was
- going. The next thing I remember was being in the emergency room in a
- hospital.. They stuck an iv in me and I was totally out of it, they gave
- me drug tests, and luckily the three weeks that I'd been in camp took out
- all of the pot and speed in my urine, probably from drinking so much
- water b/c of the heat. When the doctor was talking to someone in the
- next room, I could have sworn he was talking to my sister, I actually
- thought my sister was here, she was crying. The doctor said 'I have
- found large quantities of thc in jeffrey's urine' but he really didn't
- say this nor was my sister there. Then this was real: The doctor was on
- the phone w/my dad and said that I had a 'acute psychosis' and should be
- admitted to the 'Springfield, Missouri psychiatric ward'!! My dad
- refused and said he'll come pick me up.
- They shot me up w/ some shit andI left and they took me to mcdonalds,
- there I sat down, went to tie my
- shoelace but instead went for the nurse's sitting next to me and tied her
- shoe!, then I took my straw and put it in her drink. We wen't back to
- camp and they called my dad. My dad flew in immediatly to pick me up.
- While i was waiting for my dad the dramamine wore off except for one
- thing new, I was itching uncontrollably all over my back, so I ripped off
- my shirt and looked to see what was itching me, I thought I had spiders
- crawling all over me, but there was nothing, just bad itching. My dad
- picked me up and I was fine. I will never forget those two crazy, scary,
- and insane days of my life.
-
- Does anyone know what happened that night, If possible could some
- one give me a detailed discription of what happened. And if anyone had a
- similar experience or whoever has tried Dramamine, tell me what thier
- experience was like. Could someone please write me private or here and
- tell me what went on, I have yet to know. Till this day , noone knows
- what happened to me that day, they think i had a nervous breakdown.
-
- WRITE BACK PHULEAZE!!
-
- .. The Rainbow Father ..
-
- =============================================================================
-
- From: agerweck@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew Gerweck)
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Re: Marezine and Dramamine
- Date: 19 Jan 1995 02:55:11 -0700
- Message-ID: <3flctv$pn4@nyx.cs.du.edu>
-
- [quoted text deleted -cak]
-
- I used Marezine a couple of weeks ago... pretty damn wierd. I took 12 of
- them (1 box) and a little later felt a little wierd. I could see mild
- hallucinations in the wall I spent some time staring at (although they
- were mild enough that they could've been imagined). I was stuck in an
- unchanging room the whole time, so I didn't see much, but later when I
- finally got to leave toward the end of the trip, I saw about 10 imaginary
- people walking down the street, they would disappear as the bus I was on
- got closer. Pretty Wierd Stuff! The next day I felt pretty sick, but it
- wasn't too bad. I'd like to try the stuff again sometime (maybe) and
- take 16 or so.
-
- --
- Andrew Gerweck | "White collar conservative flashing down the street,
- agerweck@nyx.cs.du.edu | pointing their plastic finger at me." - Hendrix
-
- =============================================================================
-
- From: lohrbt@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Muse)
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Re: Marezine and Dramamine
- Date: 22 Jan 1995 00:41:29 GMT
- Message-ID: <3fs9jp$c0t@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>
-
- Although I may try it again ("Slipping into insanity is good for the
- comparison"), Marezine was not a very fun drug. Lot of gravity distortions.
- In the opposite way of DXM. I felt very incredible heavy. Every part of me.
- Got off balance a lot. Walking though Borders book store when it hit me.
- After I sat down it was so hard to stand up, my body felt so heavy. Then I
- went crazy. Here's the rest of the description that I wrote sometime after
- it had happened. The dosage is 12 of the marezine tablets. I tried to write
- during the experience, but my train of thought was so interupted by the drug
- even a sentence was too long to keep in my mind to write it down.
-
- # # #
-
- to slip into insanity is a very scary thing. i was sitting on the street.
- waiting for rene to get out of class. talking to my bag. convinced. thinking
- it was ben. seeing things not there. people. talking to them. like the other
- wingnuts on the street. sense of balance gone. intense gravity feeling
- everywhere. had to balance carefully. to not fall over. no thought. jump.
- concentration. lost. talking and making no sense to rene. i keep thinking
- rene is ben. and all these other people. why do i keep talking to them when
- i know theyre not there. the most frustrating part. knowing youre crazy. and
- not being able to stop yourself. i am incoherent. know it. cant. walking the
- streets before it starts. it begins. i try to write. i look now. so hard to
- read. no sense. logic. then. next few days. never quite back. next morning.
- still things. at work. watching my hands hit the keys. every day it lessens.
- but that fear. of never coming back. going out there. insane. on marezine.
-
- # # #
-
- --
- Trevor Lohrbeer, Muse
-
- URL: http://astro.ocis.temple.edu/~lohrbt/
-
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-
- From: leikerkw@scooby.beloit.edu (Kyle Leiker)
- Newsgroups: rec.drugs.psychedelic
- Subject: Re: marezine (cyclizine hydrochloride)
- Date: 26 Jul 1995 23:54:38 GMT
- Message-ID: <3v6kju$9i6@scooby.beloit.edu>
-
- Bill Newcomb (nuke@netcom.com) wrote:
-
- : Dramamine is similar, if perhaps even less pleasant. I did it three
- : times, and after the start of the effects in the later two times I
- : found myself asking myself, "Why in hell did I do this again?" Vivid
- : hallucinations, but not of anything pleasant, like bugs and shit.
- : There was also a "feel" to it--out of focus, muffled, papery. I know
- : it sounds kind of interesting, but it just isn't. Not recommended.
-
- I've a similar, though slightly more positive, view of dramamine.
- Regardless, if you want to do it, do it cheaply. The chemical in OTC
- motion sickness pills is either diphenhydramine or diphenhydrenate.
- Diphenhydramine produces a more marked, rapid effect. Diphenhydrenate
- was developed to avoid these effects, but still have the H2 effects.
- Diphenhydramine happens to be in not only Dramamine, but most OTC
- sleeping pills and Benadryl. Yes, Benadryl. So if you're going to
- do this, buy some generic benadryl tabs and try not to fall asleep.
-
-
- --
- kyle w leiker "the only good policeman is a dead one."
- beloit college
- leikerkw@stu.beloit.edu (from big black's "steelworker")
-
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-
- From: myxsoma@iii1.iii.net (jacob ekler)
- Newsgroups: rec.drugs.psychedelic
- Subject: Dramamine
- Date: 18 Oct 1995 15:25:00 -0400
- Message-ID: <463kav$pai@iii1.iii.net>
-
- What is the general consensus on Dramamine among you educated people?
- What are the active ingredients?
-
- I suppose I wasn't very intelligent to take 20 Dramamines (50 mg each) on my
- first time doing it, without knowing the active ingredients, and on a night when
- I had to be home by 12. It seems to be a somewhat popular thing around here, and
- on the night I did it there were at least 5 others who did it too. Has anyone
- out there done it, or does anyone know anything about it, such as active
- ingredients, side effects, descriptions of trips, etc.? I was out all night,
- can't remember 99% of what happened, got poison ivy somehow, jumped into a
- river, lost my wallet, and was in intensive care for a night. I guess it's not a
- good idea to try to walk home while on the stuff. I suppose I took a little bit
- of a detour that delayed me 10 hours...
-
- Please post any and all information you have. I'm sure you can understand why I
- would want to know as much as possible about it, since it caused a whole lot of
- problems for me, and fucked up my summer. I don't blame the drug, just my
- ignorance, or carelessness/recklessness. It was the first drugs I ever did other
- than marijuana and alcohol... so, post.
-
- myxsoma
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